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>> thank you. >> shannon: i want to start off with a guest, former pennsylvania senator rick santorum who many believe will run for the 2012 g.o.p. nomination. you asked about the tough issues, entitlement reform, talked about medicare and reforming that. >> it's interesting, because some republicans are taking heat at town hall meetings like the democrats did in 2009 over healthcare reform. over paul ryan, the house budget chairman plan to make major changes in medicare and turn it from basically an open-ended entitlement to one you would get a voucher from premium to help pay for the premium...