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Hearing for him? >> what he's saying is this was a kangaroo court that this agreement was settled in, and they didn't know about the arbitration. they had no idea about it. it's not going to hold up in court. it's ludicrous, as he puts it, ridiculous, and they're not going to let michael cohen get away with this. politically, i would tell you that this is a story that has been kind of on a slow boil for weeks, and now it's moved from side stage to center stage. and this is something that the president is not going to like because at some point push is going to come to shove here, and the presi...

We get a prominent picture of how this president is ruping the west wing. it's a bazaar of information saying, oh, he's talking to the former chief of staff. the president is thinking about replacements. there is no order. it's just a freefall over there. in the middle, by the way, of a sensitive time in our country. >> listen to jenny willoughby, the ex-wife who spoke to anderson cooper last night. listen to this. >> knowing rob the way that i do, he probably is able to, even if his clearance hadn't gone through and they knew it was because of problems in his marriage, i think he was probably...

Minutes. does not recall saying a single word other than his name. >> did he know there was going to be another translator before the meeting? >> no, he didn't. >> so he couldn't back out before, okay. so when you have said that the family didn't know about these crucial e-mails. we know. let me quote again for people. highly sensitive information from the russian government that could incriminate hillary clinton. you're saying that is not what the ago lar ra family intended the meeting to be about. but i wanted to go through a key e-mail exchange if i could with you, scott. on june 2nd, don j...

Strike, maybe not consequences because it was limited but who knows where it's going. this is really delicate stuff. >> richard engel, stay safe, my friend, especially in the middle of nowhere in turkey. i want to bring into the consideration, courtney kubie joining us from the pentagon. you've been doing absolutely yeoman's work and really, really good reporting. you've been ahead of the curve in terms of anticipating these things and describing them. i want to congratulate you and thank you for helping us report this over the last 24 hours. >> thank you. >> one of the things we've had confli...

Over. the trump white house, it's like monty python, i'm not dead yet, they keep insisting there's going to be something out there. there's nothing out there. the story is done. the fbi handled over information saying is the case is closed, we're not boerting ourselves with this tweet madness anymore. on to the real news. >> jim sciutto, do you agree with that? >> devin nunes is a republican and he told our manu raju he doesn't think there's anything to prove it. the fact is we've heard pretty categorical denials of any evidence from republicans and democrats from the u.s. attorney general on ...