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Milley about the incident. the july 2021 meeting was held at trump's golf club in bedminster. including communications specialist margo martin. attendees did not have security clearances that would have allowed them to access classified information. meadows did not attend. let me read this one more section of this report and mary i'm coming back to you. investigators have questioned general milley about the episode making him one of the highest ranking national security officials from trump's administration to meet with the special counsel's team. general mark milley seems so central to unders...

Disposal for a long period of time information into if he used that information to advance an agenda item, it could have devastating consequences to national security. i can't think of a simpler way to say why i think this moment is so difficult and that is because there is no justification in knowing who he is and that he doesn't fully understand but he may not decide to protect if he wanted to do something different. >> sue gordon chooses her words so carefully and i hang on to every last one of them. all the more loaded in light of this breaking news from cnn. tim miller is joining our conv...

Charges. it also is a separate crime to disseminate versus just possess. andit differentiates biden an pence. so from a political perspective it is huge because there is no evidence this happened with respect to president biden or former vice president pence. the information is not just classified information, it is one of the most sensitive types of classified information which is war plans involving potential attack on iran. so from every single aspect of this, if this reporting is accurate and there is this tape recording, there will be an indictment and it is hard to see how given all the ...

You about either way his intent and knowledge was revealed. whether he was making it up or not making it up, he was acknowledging i don't have authority to have classified information or to share it with you. but i do think that it is interesting. he sort of seems by this reporting to say i'd sure like to share it with you so i can rebut what general milley is saying but i can't. >> and now i get to read more of this fantastic reporting because there is great context i want to share with our viewers, and we also have to keep in mind that he is such a fantastical fibber that we have to remember...

Into the espionage or mishandling. this you're saying is you think game over on an espionage charge or what is the charge? >> absolutely. so there is espionage charges. this is basically it is a crime to -- >> violation of the espionage act. >> yes. so it is a crime to possess national defense information without authority. it is a crime to disseminate that, that is to share it. and here there apparently is shared with people who don't have clearance to get this information. and again this, is not like a football. this is war plans given to people who have no clearance to get it. it is hard to...