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The order, in 1980, three and move forward. and that group is sort of the base of -- the tactical base for the division, which translates to the base. infrastructure attacks or one kind of violence, amid several others, they're all laid out in a strategy, in common, in order to bring about with the movement seeks, which is to overthrow the united states, the creation of a white ethnostate, mass violence against communities of color, and even genocide of non whites. infrastructure attacks sit next to show of force violence, like the january 6th attack on the capitol, and mass casualty violence ...

Know that's an awkward word but i wonder if you can sort of explain the thinking there because i feel like there's a little bit of a leap of logic to it, which makes it not translate to nonexpert sort of news consumers about this. the idea you attack infrastructure, you'd cause people material pain. you'd cause chaos and upset and then somehow there's a slippery slope that results in race war and white people taking over and genocide against nonwhite people. why do they believe that infrastructure attacks and resulting chaos ultimately accelerate us to some race war future where they think the...

And the former machete wielding robber, who's also rested today, she wrote with the fbi, what is believed to be an ideological manifesto of course, knocking out power, and also her admiration for the unabomber, and for hitler twice now as kathleen below shortages history northwestern university, he's the author of bring the war home, the white power movement of paramilitary america. which is really a seminal techs in this field. i really appreciate you being here, thanks for being here. >> as for having me. >> i said at the top of the show tonight that this appears to be merging as a favorite ...

Staggering state of emergency problems that face white people. the woman arrested today not piece of writing, apparently said to an informant that you do anything for my people. this is the idea of white people as her race, and as our nation, it reflects the sense that my people are being extinguished, and will be apocalyptic about vanished of action is not taken. so infrastructure attacks, like you know the power explain baltimore, taking no heat, taking out the ability of hospitals to perform their operations, right? if you don't have hospital extra city, can't run the basics of any of our s...

I wonder if you could sort of explain the thinking there. -- is a beautiful leap of logic, where makes it not translate to sort of non expert news consumers here. the idea is that you attack infrastructure, you cause people material pain, you cause chaos and upset, and then somehow there's a slippery slope that results in a race, for and why people taken over, and genocide against non-white people. why do they believe that infrastructure attacks and result in chaos, ultimately celebrate us to some sort of race war future where they think they're gonna win. >> infrastructure, attacks and mass c...