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Builder. you're not building roads and bridges. you're not creating blue collar jobs that make an infrastructure appealing and popular to a lot of people. i think the reason is that you've got to get this plan through congress. republicans in congress are more likely to be on board with something that essentially constitutes deregulation, has been sought by a major industry rather than a big building project. >> but if you're the president of the united states, you're talking about something you think would benefit the economy, something that is personal to you as opposed to other things that ...

Rates and also the corporate tax rates. and then also to deal with the infrastructure issues. >> bill: that's another big one, too. it takes you right up to labor day. >> yes. >> bill: if that calendar sticks. what do you think last night did to all of that? >> i think what last night did was to set forth the way the president is going to view this. i viewed last night as a challenge to congress to move forward, put some bills on the floor, pass these bills, send these bills to him. allow us to do that work that is necessary to stabilize the health insurance marketplace. obamacare is imploding...

Of infrastructure issues. but another interesting point is why only forward-facing cameras? why not a camera facing into the cabin? the ntsb has discussed that as well. but engineer groups have opposed it. we need to know what happened in this event and we need all the tools in the tool chest. >> we don't know what happened inside the -- with the engineer in this particular case. but if there were a camera, the notion that perhaps falling asleep which has happened in other train disasters could be either ruled out or ruled in, right? >> correct. we would know whether he was distracted, whether...

According to andy herman the past president of the organization 32% of america's ray major roads are in poor or mediocre condition and that costs u.s. motorists about $324 per person. aaa mid-atlantic told me that the annual cost to motorists of potholes alone is $6.4 billion, which might be exceeded this year tu to weather. mr. herman faults our political leadership for not addressing the infrastructure issues. well ed rendell might be the exception. in the late 1990s, he was the chair of an organization called rebuild america, an interest that continued while he was governor of pennsylvania ...

You know, just living in norris, we had, over the course of the past six months, we had multiple boil water alerts, we've had to shower with your head down, because if you shower with it up, these microbes will get into your nose. there's this way in which, that notion we should be able to trust and rely on our water supply is completely torn apart by events like whatwear seeing in west virginia and north carolina. >> it's true. and i'm glad you brought up new orleans. because we have a couple of issues going on here. we have equity issues and we have infrastructure issues. so when it comings ...