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Bill -- i'm talking about bbb -- they're getting at the longer-term issues. it's not short-term injections of money into the economy. it is the long-term investments in beating inflation through sustainable economic growth. so it's hard to, you know, explain that sometimes to voters and to, you know, in a 15-second ad. but, you know, i think that, yes, of course we have problems, of course we need to communicate better, and it's something that, you know, that we immediate to do. jackie: i think you're right on the infrastructure side, there are definitely long-term projects in there, spending,...

Why aren't you drilling? >> that's a great question. of those 9,000 permits that have been approved, what they are not saying is it's a two-part process. but if i don't have a right of way to build gathering lines and infrastructure to get that source to market, that permit to drill doesn't do me any good. a significant number of those 9,000 leases are hung up on the infrastructure side rather than on the drilling side. the white house needs to be looking at that. brian: does 15 do it? did they discuss this with you ahead of time? >> the president, we listened to what he said. and we agree wit...

Why aren't you drilling? >> that's a great question. of those 9,000 permits that have been approved, what they are not saying is it's a two-part process. but if i don't have a right of way to build gathering lines and infrastructure to get that source to market, that permit to drill doesn't do me any good. a significant number of those 9,000 leases are hung up on the infrastructure side rather than on the drilling side. the white house needs to be looking at that. brian: does 15 do it? did they discuss this with you ahead of time? >> the president, we listened to what he said. and we agree wit...

Why aren't you drilling? >> that's a great question. of those 9,000 permits that have been approved, what they are not saying is it's a two-part process. but if i don't have a right of way to build gathering lines and infrastructure to get that source to market, that permit to drill doesn't do me any good. a significant number of those 9,000 leases are hung up on the infrastructure side rather than on the drilling side. the white house needs to be looking at that. brian: does 15 do it? did they discuss this with you ahead of time? >> the president, we listened to what he said. and we agree wit...

Possible, but not likely. in fact, it's probably going to slip to tomorrow if not the weekend. >> as you point out w, when you still don't know what it's going to cost and what's in it, and you want to vote tonight, it doesn't sound good. i want to go to phil mattingly in front of the white house. phil, before the president left for his trip overseas last week, they wanted a vote. they were going to vote for bit par -- the bipartisan one and the one we're talking about now. he tried to push the vote through. that did not work. what is the response to someone like congresswoman spansberger sayi...