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>> he very clearly violated the law in disclosing classified information. and he, as a citizen, charged in this country, will be afforded all the many rights given to defendants in our country, in our system of justice when he returns. jenna: when he returns. that was the white house press secretary showing some frustration over edward snowden on the run more than 65 days. 31 spent in a moscow airport. his status is still unclear which is certainly creating more tension between the united states and russia. it's been a rough road the last year. take a look at this. you have russia cracking dow...

Egyptian factions. we have only seen in washington at the state department and administration in general delegations from the muslim brotherhood or their allies. he should have engaged in dialogue with the leaders of the opposition, with ngo's, with judges and the military. now at this point in time, you have a severe crisis. but that crisis is unique. it's not even what happened in 2011. you have 20 million egyptians from sundayto wednesday who have been on the streets of egypt. that is a strong signal that the egyptian people want to see morsi out and the president of the united states shoul...

Agencies and we know that microsoft has been infiltrated, apple has been looked at and google has pulled out of china in part because of this. what are they going after? >> they're going after everything, not just the national security establishment. they're going after companies for information so that their state enterprises can better compete against us. going after critical infrastructure and also the institutions of a free society. ngo's, charities, advocacy groups. the free press, new york times, wall street journal. >> clayton: quickly what can we do? >> use our economic leverage agains...

Nongovernment organizations, the world wildlife funds, those kind of things we think of second nature here, don't exist for the most part in china. if there's going to be a solution in china, it's going to have to be a grassroots domestic population driven effort, and you're right. it doesn't exist now, and it needs also to come -- it's the nice thing about a command economy is that you can dictate terms, and the chinese government has not put a single wildlife trafficker in jail. >> but also, we did have it here as well. there was a philadelphia -- a store selling ivory where an undercover st...

Material objects. >> right. >> and their origins. ivory is certainly seemingly one of those things, so it takes i think a massive sort of awareness campaign zoosh yes, because they are being lied to. brian does some amazing undercorps work in china. you know, when you go to buy ivory, they say that it's old. if you really press them, when was this -- how did this ivory come to be in the shop. they say it's old, before the ban. there's no way to prove that. they are being lied to. i don't totally blame them. i don't know that they know the truth, and that's why we need to talk about it. that's ...