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Physically incapacitated. we know he was not physically in inka pas at a timed. his reaction is it will take too long. that's really telling as to how clearly kevin mccarthy saw things in the days after january 6th. he's very much changed his tune but he needs to be questioned and why he thought ha he thought at the time. >> you said after january 6th. trump had only 12 more days in office and their concern was what trump might do if he stayed in power even for that short amount of time. >> yeah. it's telling they were seriously talking about the 25th amendment for about two weeks. it's an ext...

Argue ing this tactic could rede the number of deadly police shootings every year. the former chief of the u.s. capitol police and bobby chacone former fbi special agent. chief gainer, you first, so you think that this is maybe even a good idea, tell us that side of the argument? >> well, alisyn, i don't think it's an either/or. number one, police don't shoot to kill. they do shoot to inka pas at a time -- incapacitate. i applaud the chief. >> aren't police trained to shoot to kill? i mean, when we, you know, when there were all of those news stories that we all watched unfortunately so vividl...