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When he is in a situation where he is challenged he does not always respond politely. >> he can be pernickety. that was true when he was the mayor of vermont. he hates these types of inside baseball questions that are so frequent on cable news. he wants to talk about his issues. not all issues. his issues. >> right. >> there is a part of me that respects that. there is a part of me that understands how the broader game is played. that reaction i think his fans love it. i am not sure it is a way to appeal to everybody else. sometimes working the refs works on the right. see if it works for sand...

Mueller's deputies, too. they are going to meet over structure and questions we have not confirmed that detail. back with me for opening argument series is former acting solicitor general neal katyal who argued dozens of cases before the supreme court and knows his way around these types of hearings. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> first of all, it is a little inside baseball, but so are you, so are we here at "the beat" sometimes. what did you think of the unusual friday night announcement that, oh, there are some tweaks and it's delayed, what does it all mean? >> it means there is...

That is humane and that is compassionate and that keeps families together. >> with more, i'm joined by the nbc correspondent who broke the story of the internal dhs reports. the reports from inside the inspector general of homeland security. so are they lying to the public what they know is the truth? they're covering it up? >> well, it it's a good question. what we good was through a foia request. >> freedom of information. >> yes, that's inside baseball. freedom of information. where they turned this over. but this was not something that was supposed to be made public. these are from initial...

To him instead of an "r," you'd go crazy about any of these lies. when will it be too much for you? >> i don't think republicans are going to abandon the president over inside baseball -- >> no, no internal baseball. this is lying. when will you say i'm a conservative, character counts? i've been saying this my whole adult life, i'm not going to stop saying this now. he's got to stop lying. when? >> yeah, look, i believe in most cases it would be better to tell the truth than anything else. there's no reason to lie about polling here. >> in most cases it would be better to tell the truth? ana....

Over inside baseball -- >> no, no internal baseball. this is lying. when will you say i'm a conservative, character counts? i've been saying this my whole adult life, i'm not going to stop saying this now. he's got to stop lying. when? >> yeah, look, i believe in most cases it would be better to tell the truth than anything else. there's no reason to lie about polling here. >> in most cases it would be better to tell the truth? ana. vote for me. in most cases i think it's better to tell the truth. >> chris, look. >> by the way, it's also better not to leak the polls, i guess. >> the hard answe...