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By a subpoena. yes, he plays a keen inside game and he probably has a good knack for self-preservation. being marginalized by mike pompeo, the secretary of state and the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney out of his role of nsa is one thing and having to push back against that. but this isn't about john bolton. this is about rudy giuliani and president trump conducting a rogue foreign policy through a private citizen who's unaccountable to this government outside the channels of our normal system for political gain. it's really not about john bolton. and -- so it's one thing for his people ar...

Getting it. people look at this and they see dysfunction and that is not what they want to look at. what is the top of all these voters? it's health care, immigration will look into this election. that is what overshadows everything else and a lot of this is a sad side game. >> shannon: we will keep covering it because who the heck knows what is happening tomorrow. thank you very much. it appears virginia governor will not going anywhere tonight after investigators looking into whether the governor is the person photographed and blackface or kkk costume in his old yearbook say they cannot come...

People look at this and see dysfunction and that is not what they want to look at. what is the top of voters in both primaries? healthcare in the democrats, immigration for republican voters going into this election. that overshadows everything and a lot of this is just a sad side game. shannon: we will cover it because who knows what will happen tomorrow? thank you very much. it appears ralph northrom is not going anywhere. investigators looking at whether their governors the person photographed in blackface, they cannot come to a conclusion. in a statement today he denied being in that pictu...

2020 and say either it's there or it's not. >> there's the wall argument and there's what happened with syria and mattis. and there's the inside game and the outside game. the inside game, he's basically lost congressional republicans, which he's done periodically where they've gone neutral or sometimes they've criticized him. the outside game with i think we're oversimplifying the base. they're being obstinate. what are they going to do? they're going to surrender and say 65 million of you were right, we are wrong. come back. they have nowhere to go. this isn't like they're going to mo move f...

Interview. what did you learn from the public grilling that he faced before the house judiciary committee? >> so the thing i would say about attorney general sessions, two things. first of all, he is suffering with some of the most profoundly selective amnesia of any human being i've ever met in my life. he seems just never to quite remember the things that might incriminate him. the other thing that i would say about him is that he's clearly on the watch -- the firing watch list. in washington, d.c., there's kind of like this inside game of who's going to get fired first, rex tillerson or jef...