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This is president obama's top domestic priority. and the fact is there's very, very little room for error. >> it's not just that, though. it's television ads and, as you said, a lot of arm twisting and a lot of lobbying. so take us behind the scenes and tell us about that. >> sure. the inside game, outside game. the inside game, president obama, house speaker nancy ploesy, senator harry reid all trying to arm twist here in washington, d.c., trying to get members of congress, democrats to support health care reform. the outside game. outside interest groups, don, will be spending at least a mil...

Yes, they are on president obama's top priority. there is very little room for error. >> you said there was a lot of arm twisting and lobbying. so take us behind the scenes and tell bus that. >> the inside game and outside game. the inside game, president obama, house speaker pelosi, all trying to arm twist here in washington, d.c. trying to get con dress to support games. they will be spending at least $1 million a day on tv ads either for or against health care reform. they see this as the end. if you're an opponent and trying to stop it, trying to get it to go through, some of the groups do...

Mcconnell factor here? as kasie pointed out, they've been cautioned. people say he's wiley, crafty, a political animal. this was not a big win for him, not a good week for mitch mcconnell. what's happening inside his world, mcconnell world, with all of this? >> it's been a challenge for the majority leader. this is the challenge of governing. he has been an opposition leader for many decades in the republican party. he's trying to figure out right now in this inside game, can he get senators like rob portman of ohio on board with some more funding for opioid addiction coverage, senators like s...

House. when they start worrying about deficit and the debt and knowing as you do, the debt doubled under barack obama, aren't they a fine one to talk? >> you know, neil, i said this to you before on your program. i come from a state government perspective ten years in the ohio senate. we were obligated to balance our budget. so we're not allowed to print money. so i as a democrat always had to care about everything being paid for including tax cuts because we had no choice. certainly right now what the democrats like pelosi and hoyer are trying to do is, you know, create a juxtaposition? which...

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