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Fault? >> because remember, he's the one that supported tarp, too big to fail, and people see him tied -- a lot of people who are in this occupy wall street movement are not too pleased that obama hasn't been more aggressive in throwing bankers in jail. >> bill: mary katherine, these movements shouldn't spontaneously happen. there is too much money behind them and unions are behind them. it's organized. i think it was organized, number one, with an eye on getting president obama reelected, okay, number one. and overseas, it's a whole different story. they're just anarchists and cranks over the...

Fault? >> because remember, he's the one that supported tarp, too big to fail, and people see him tied -- a lot of people who are in this occupy wall street movement are not too pleased that obama hasn't been more aggressive in throwing bankers in jail. >> bill: mary katherine, these movements shouldn't spontaneously happen. there is too much money behind them and unions are behind them. it's organized. i think it was organized, number one, with an eye on getting president obama reelected, okay, number one. and overseas, it's a whole different story. they're just anarchists and cranks over the...