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They're not talking about the government, they're overthrowing. >> bob matthews took this book as his bible. he followed it. so in the turner diaries, the characters of counterfeiting and executions and that's what the order did. >> martinez was a wealth of information. you may say we had a lot of pieces and he seemed to move it around for us. once we had the agreement made with tom martinez that he would help us, we knew we had to be patient. we had to wait for bob matthews and instruct martinez. in the meantime we had not met. we were moving at lightning speed. we greatly increase our survei...

About overthrowing the government, they're overthrowing it. >> bob matthews took this book as his bible. and he followed it. so in the turner diaries, the characters get counterfeiting, armored car robberies, executions. and that's what the order did. so martinez was a wealth of information. you might say we handled all the little pieces and he was able to move them around for us and show us where they fit. once we had the agreement made with tom martinez that he would help us, we knew we had to be patient, like the hunter, we had to wait for bob matthews to contact and instruct martinez. in t...