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You are correct instructing michael cohen to lie if that happened, which now looks like it obviously didn't, is a crime. why we instruct him to lie about a noncrime, a building project in moscow, tucker, is not illegal. there is nothing illegal about it part of the story made no sense. secondly, think about, this tucker. you were in journalism before. you know, you have the scoop of the century right here, right? and you give it to buzzfeed and to a reporter at buzzfeed with a checkered path? what does this say now think this through in the audience. this was probably some kind of a canary tra...

Initiate a crime. you were correct instructing michael cohen to lie if that happen is a crime. why would he instruct him to lie about a non crime. a building project in moscow, tucker is not illegal. it made no sense. tucker, you were in journalism before. you have the scoop of the century, you give it to buzzfeed and a reporter as buzzfeed with a checkered past? think this through in the audience. it was some kind of a canary trap.ro someone feeding false information to sniff out leakers on the inside of the government. the only people eager enough to pick this up was a discredited guy at buz...

Special counsel's independence. >> can we expect this report to now have a major focus of michael cohen's upcoming congressional testimony? he says he'll decide this week if he'll speak. he's due to do it on february 7th. >> we think that michael cohen is not going to be able to talk about things that are within the purview of the mueller investigation that mueller's instructing him not to talk to congress about that because the investigation is ongoing. that might be a very frustrating part of that testimony in which i'm sure lawmakers will nevertheless, especially on the democratic side gran...

Attempts to curry favor with a hostile power while running for president are one thing. when it comes to actual potential impeachment proceedings it is almost incidental. the real offense here would be lying about and instructing someone to lie about it to congress under oath. >> i think it is both the cover-up and the crime here. in the narrower view we have the president sitting in a room instructing michael cohen and it sounds like there were others in on it. you're going in and you're going to lie. that's a cover-up. but i would argue it relates to collusion as well. what was the substance...

Obstruction of justice and it's also part of this idea that prosecutors refer to as consciousness of guilt. that means the reason i have to lie about russia is because i know there's something really bad about russia. if there was nothing bad there, i would be comfortable telling you the truth. but i have to distance myself from russia because there's something bad there. and so that goes into this idea that, you know, the obstruction is the collusion, that there is more there that we need to know. now, it may be that robert mueller knows about it, but why take the risk of instructing people t...