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The ruling class and that mentality without breaking up the ruling class of that mentality. more than any group up there congress has become very insul lar. obama care was passed nobody got to see the final legislation. that's because they pat each other on the back they get along they are all great and so forth and in terms of citizen participation because of income ben see like jerry man derring and free media john mccain is on tv every 14 minutes as an example. it becomes more and more difficult for citizen challengers to be effective. that is what the framers wanted. you look at jerry man ...

>> because insolarity is the buy word of this administration. steven rattner who it a fabulous job with the automobile industry could have run it. but they don't turn to outside people because they are so insul lar. >> why is that? >> it's an interesting question. wh >> greatest example is when you had james baker trying to beat ronald reagan in the primary and second reagan ended up winning and he turned to baker and said run high cmy campaign. >> in the beginning it looked like there was some with this at administration. it didn't work out very well.