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Full medicare for all, and the role of private health insura e insurance. cnn kyung lah is joining me now. what's in the plan that kamala harris has laid out for us? >> before i get to that i want to show you quickly what's happening here. we're in a section of detroit. this is an area where there are quite a few small businesses. you can take a look at the inside picture. she's smiling and ordering coffee cake, having tea, and really just taking a break from debate prep. this is the same morning that she rolled out a new health care plan, and to get to some of those questions, kate, what she ...

It's one thing to say we don't think that we should have to cover this. it's another then to say, we don't even want to make it possible for our employees to go elsewhere, to an outside company that notre dame, for example, the little sisters of the poor, would not pay a dime in insurance money to. we don't even want that to be possible. and our conscience demands that we try to stop these people from getting contraceptive care. if you start pulling on that string, you have to start adding people like the christian scientists, the jehova's witnesses, who don't believe in blood transfusions, ne...

Through obamacare, but they're not saying who these 2 million people are. are they young? are they old? or previously insured? or uninsured? healthy, sick? this plan is based upon getting a large number of young, healthy people enrolled. are you concerned that maybe the right people aren't signing up, and that will just kind of have this program tumble on itself? >> well, that -- that has always been a concern, and that's a permanent concern of all insurance. there are the so-called invincibles, young people who have never been sick, don't know how to access the health care system, because the...

To step um to the plate. at least, that's what i'm hoping. i'm hoping the sick people are getting the care. >> you know what's fascinating, if i could, blackwell, about this conversation, it reveals a truth behind obamacare, it was never sold upon. and that is that it was always a redistributive mechanism from the old and healthy to the young and sick. the whole idea,s the young and healthy, the invincibles, as errol just called them, you must have health care. you must have expensive health care, in order to subsidize the costs of the older and the sick. now we're having this debate, are they...

have a significant effect for our economy and for middle class families all across america. what these independent experts have also said is that if we don't act, the opposite will be true. there will be fewer jobs, weaker growth. so as we look towards next week, any senator out there who is thinking about voting against this jobs bill when it comes up for a vote needs to sdmran exactly why they would oppose something that we know would improve our economic situation at surnl such an urgent time for our families and for our businesses. now, congressional republicans say one of the mo...