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Unless you move on these other things. and then we can't let him win certain things. for instance, right now, in this voting rights bill that they have put out, do you know inside that bill for the first time in the history of this country, it codifies a lot. it says that voter i.d. is necessary for voter integrity, voter confidence and access. that has to come out. that can't stay in there. there's a lot of good things in that bill, but that's the trump lie, the insurrection lie, the extremist lie. and it's got to be moved. you have to push manchin hard. you have to move in his state. that's ...

President trump is telling people he expects to be reinstated as president by august, and he lost fair and square so it's just another lie, and these lies are dangerous. look no further than the insurrection lie. do you think he really believes this? >> far be it for me to tell you what is in donald trump's head. i don't know what he really believes. i know he wants to feed the base of the party that supports him, and those group of supporters that are cheering on michael flynn and that group, does donald trump really believe this or is he trying to raise money off of it, it's hard to tell. it...