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The like. it is not about the deal. it is about the outcome. right? it is about achieving this permanent physical change and transformation that will have the opportunity to change the world on. >> do we think that this is perhaps part of a larger strategy? i mean might this be a tactic that the president is using to try to gain some leverage once these meetings do happen? or is that giving this administration too much credit? >> no, that is one of the big questions, is this a tactic. donald trump has written about this even in his book. show that you are willing to walk away from the table. i...

Here trailed by two staffer, one who was carrying a bag which is typical because he is the intelligence chairman, it looked like a fwhag could contain which was filed information. not abnormal. but listen john kelly's presence has certainly raised an eyebrow. and these two meetings, i think the interesting thing to note is the position that republican leaders have taken about these briefings. paul ryan has been steadfast in saying that the investigation should go on, it should come to a conclusion. but obviously partaking in the meeting and wants all the information that he can get. >> and as ...

>> and top of the hour, we are expecting our second classified briefing there on the hill. this one with the so-called gang of eight. they will be debriefed by top fbi and justice department officials on the use of a confidential source in the russia probe. congressman schiff your democratic colleague said that there should only be one meeting. where do you stand? should there be one or any meetings? >> there shouldn't be any meeting at all. we never have allowed subjects of an investigation to reach into the fbi's evidence locker. and that's what is happening here. this information will be pa...

Spreading into europe and spreading into asia, northern africa, middle east, they have all the credibility that they need right now. they are on the move. they are striking at the heart of the west, in london, in paris, brussels, germany. they have all the credibility they need. trace: is interesting because i know you have been these type of intel meetings and tomorrow teresa mae will meet with her cobra team, her national security team to talk about the next steps. what do they talk about? three attacks in three months. what's top of the agenda perspective do they raise the threat level and ...

Whether john kelly will be there? >> reporter: we do not know if he sat in on these meetings. the white house has said that he was setting them up. there was a lot of talk that he would be physically in the meetings. democrats were complaining about as loudly as they could this morning that this would be inappropriate for him to sit in those meetings. and until we catch sight of him leaving, i don't think we'll know. >> garrett haake, keep us posted. jake sherman with politico and greg brower, he worked under james comey. let's start there, jake, where garrett left off. j john kelly, why would...