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Reality? >> well, an indictment, as you know, chris, is an accusation. it's a charge by the government. >> true. >> it's not a conviction. even russian intelligence agenciagents in the united states have a presumption of innocence until they're proven guilty. i agree with something that congressman nadler said in the previous program with anderson cooper. i would like to see the russians extradite these intelligence agents so we can have a trial, so the dnc server can be examined, and so this charge can be proven or disproven. if that doesn't happen, then i'm hopeful in the civil suit that the...

Extradited. of course they're intelligence agents. they won't be. one of the aud thiodd things abs indictment that hasn't been discussed is this really isn't how this should ever be put forward. there are three types of investigations of the department of justice. criminal investigation, civil investigations, and the much less known counterintelligence investigations. and this is counterintelligence material. i mean this makes sense in a report about russian participation in the 2016 election, but these people are never going to be extradited. >> right. >> this indictment is never going to be ...

Which the administration considers to be spies, intelligence agents, and steps to impose russia sanctions. and then on the issue of syria, last week the president said he wanted to withdraw 2,000 troops currently in syria today, did a bit of clean up work, saying he wants to stay there until the fight against isis is done. the president also said that he might consider staying if saudi arabia chooses to pay for the u.s. troop presence in syria. if the u.s. does withdraw from syria, who benefits most from that? >> the russians. >> reporter: russia, that's right. then the border wall, the presid...

Motorcades in the streets overnight. is kim jong un in china? good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. we start with the big move from the u.s. 60 russian diplomats have one week to pack up and leave the united states. president trump ordering it as part of the effort with european and other allies. the move is a response to the poisoning in the u.s. k of the double agent and his daughter. senior officials say all of those the u.s. is expelling has been identified as intelligence agents. >> also ordering the closure of the russian consulate near seattle...

Brennan can't say on television because he's still bound by classification. but just give us a sense of what -- if you think about the totality of that period from early 2016 to now, what are the kinds of things he knows that he can't talk about? >> well, i don't know. what i do know is what was in the public realm throughout this period was, of course, they were actively in multiple venues dealing with the russians. business, intelligence agents, et cetera. they were hacking our election system. so, the only question really -- and by the way, approaching the russians as a new president with s...