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Rather than deter. >> trish: kellyanne conway same this was strong and obviou obvious. >> it they cannot be literally accurate. if we were to use greater force and power than the world has ever seen, he means greater than nagasaki and hiroshima. he cannot possibly mean that. he will not kill innocent north koreans. it's different taking out their military and kim jong-un. it's different taking out the people. >> trish: what are our options options. you've spent a lot of time thinking about this. nonmilitary guy. what are we looking at? you can go in from a military perspective and actually str...

Times." i didn't know it would be a report like this. this is keys to the kingdom level intelligence. whoever the source was for this, whatever the original source, if it's true, because i'm not sure that it's true, whoever it is that source is burned. however, we got this information. but going right to the content of it, this is utterly amazing because it's an internal discussion about people who these russians believe are their intelligence assets who they believe that they can discuss or key in or play the finger strings of these two particular puppets and influence donald trump. this stor...

Recruit the next naveed jamali to work for the united states, would you be concerned that the president of the united states poses the biggest risk to their security? >> well, the president and every other official that uses intelligence certainly has impact on the operation world. you have to remember, like naveed, all intelligence assets, they're civilians. they're not trained spies. they are being coached by the people that work for me, several years ago, coached naveed, but they're civilians. and they don't understand this world. and they are rightfully nervous to all of a sudden be a part...

Service. >> unpack that a little bit more. if that's the case then you're saying that julian assange is not a journalist. >> you're asking the wrong guy a question like that, absolutely not. >> i mean, reasonable people in the american debate are worried when they hear people in the ic talk about something that sounds like it's just information. i'm obviously highly skeptical of mr. assange, and i've been pushing the justice department to ask why we have not been taking steps to prosecute him for particular crimes that have endangered american intelligence assets, but across the continuum of j...

A nonnation intelligence source. >> so you're thinking that julian assange is not a journalist? >> you're asking the wrong guy a question like that. absolutely not. >> reasonable people in the american debate are worried when they hear people in the i.c. talk about something that sounds like it's just information. obviously i'm skeptical of mr. assange and's been pushing the justice department to ask why we have not been taking steps to prosecute him for particular crimes that have endangered american intelligence assets. for those trying to get information to help the american people under ou...