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Intelligence committee go and ask for a grant of immunity for him for any testimony he gave. because he's already serving time, he's already in jail. my guess's is the justice department would go along with that grant of immunity. and so he would -- they would effectively bar him from pleading the fifth. >> and so jill, this sets up paul manafort now after his sentencing next week to possibly be a very significant witness in congress. let's listen, first of all, before wet' get to this, of wha the president said about the possibility of pardoning paul manafort. >> i don't talk about that now. ...

He's already been punished. for new crimes that he might admit to he would have an existing fifth amendment claim. but at that point what you might well see is you'll see the intelligence committee go and ask for a grant of immunity for him for any testimony he gave. because he's already serving time, he's already in jail. my guess is the justice department would go along with that grant of immunity. and so he would -- they would effectively bar him from pleading the fifth. >> and so jill, this sets up paul manafort now after his sentencing next week to possibly be a very significant witness i...

Circumstanti -- but that's still circumstantial. you don't have that hard evidence? >> that's correct. >> tell me where does your committee, the intelligence committee go from here? >> the investigation moves forward. we have our staffs that are going to be hopefully in a position to see more of the evidence that the department made available for a very brief period of time last friday and only to the chair and the ranking member and a couple of key staff members. that information has to be made available to all committee members much like the cia is making that information available as well. ...