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They do engage in theft and espionage. but to my knowledge, there's no evidence to date that they have engaged in the kind of propaganda or political warfare to try to tip the scales of an election in the way russia did in 2016. the fact that the vice president said an intelligence official told him so, that's not the way the intelligence community works. the intelligence community doesn't work by having some intelligence official come forward and whisper something in the ear of the president about to go on "60 minutes" or the vice president. the community works by giving specific intelligence...

Theft and espionage. but to my knowledge, there's no evidence to date that they have engaged in the kind of propaganda or political warfare to try to tip the scales of an election in the way russia did in 2016. the fact that the vice president said an intelligence official told him so, that's not the way the intelligence community works. the intelligence community doesn't work by having some intelligence official come forward and whisper something. the community works by giving specific intelligence community assessme assessments, and through formal declarations and assessment. >> because some...

Present danger what the russians have already done to our elections? >> no. i mean, brian, china is a sophisticated cyber actor. they do engage in hacking and theft and espionage. but to my knowledge, there's no evidence to date that they have engaged in the kind of propaganda or political warfare to try to tip the scales of an election in the way russia did in 2016. the fact that the vice president said an intelligence official told him so, that's not the way the intelligence community works. the intelligence community doesn't work by having some intelligence official come forward and whisper...

Reveal before. it sounds like the direction things are going. that would be a very beneficial effect. there's lawmakers like diane feinstein who said, why can't you at least put out a summary of some of these things so we can get some of this out there. they did not see fit to do that. there's plenty of blame to go around here for the congress, the administration, and the judiciary. maybe all of them will start realizing, you know what, we're better off in a democracy if we talk about these things in public. >> you know, the intelligence community says when we have more transparency, when we t...