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Leadership, he owns paul ryan. he owns the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. i mean, republicans and donald trump own washington, d.c. they're talking about a government out of control. it's their government, matt. so first of all, how bizarre is that and secondly, what does the intel community think when conservatives -- so-called conservatives spend their days trashing the men and women who are protecting the rest of us? >> i guess if you're playing conspiracy bingo as wayne was, the square on that card is the deep safe. it's this ball that they talk about embedded inside the intellige...

The record because the trump team was saying things that weren't true and biden and dni clapper was saying this is what happened, this is what i said, we did get the synopsis, et cetera. >> yeah, but they're having those conversations on donald trump's terms. that is in a way the media mastery he's been able to demonstrate throughout his candidacy. we'll see throughout the presidency, he will pick these fights and by and large if you're engaging him, he's winning because he's -- miss directing you from something he doesn't want to talk about moving thing to his own turf. this fight with the in...