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But maybe co-conspirator. he may have struck a deal. they will talk to him and listen to him but at some point, he's going to end up in handcuffs if what we're hearing is actually true and i think some of it is. >> sean, there's reports they got information from electronic intercepts. how likely is that? how important do you think that could be? >> intercept prior or post? >> i believe prior, i believe. >> yeah, so if they are talking about electronic intercept -- >> the information is thin on it i should say. >> if they are electronic intercepts that occurred prior to the incident, then the q...

He wants to talk, but at some point, he'll end up in handcuffs if what we're hearing is true, and i think there actually is. >> it appears they got information from electronic intercepts. how likely is that? how important do you think that could be? >> electronic intercepts prior or post? >> they were prior, i believe. >> so if they're talking about electronic intercepts -- >> the information is thin on it, i should say. >> if they are electronic intercerpt. >> they're going to analyze it and what follow-up may have been done. as you know, the intelligence component of this is so critical in p...

Another major city deals with its issues. i am currently consulting in a number of cities. detroit, baltimore, a few cities working with the chiefs of police there. so i have a much more significant base of experiences than i had even in 1994. >> the intelligence component has to be night and day between your first time as commissioner and today given what happened in september 11th, 2001. >> where we had gone to is into an era of predictive policeing in l.a. in 2007. we are with that information and intelligence. you can almost predict certain crimes will occur at certain times in german geog...

Other intelligence organizations around the world. but he is a lieutenant general, so he has a military component, he has the intelligence component, and then he also has a political side to him because he has been involved. if you look at some of the wi wikileaks you can read about this. he has been involved in a lot of the political movements and -- especially in the mideast peace process, israel, palestinian, and other areas, bringing them together. so he's a highly important person. but you know, kate, the real question is can this new government even stand at this point? >> exactly. and w...

Military he founded a company which provided security solutions to the u.s. intelligence and defense communities. what you don't see on his resume is any indication he's worked in the aviation or transportation area or that he's had much interaction with the private sector, but it may be that in the wake of that attempted christmas day bombing they've decided the intelligence component is the most important thing, john. >> interesting aspect there to this whole thing. remind us again, jean, why this job has been vacant while there hasn't been a permanent person in place since president obama t...