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Who cares? in the end, was there collusion in an american election, we now all accept it happened. to what effect, we don't know. but it happened. if it happened and there was aid and comfort given by the trump campaign, that is a big, big deal and it will make the election seem imlegitimate to people if, huge if still, if it's proven. >> go ahead jeremy. >> john's question is right, that's an important question, about collusion, but that's the question about the political optic. from the national security optic, custom is something i focus on and people who i talk to focus on there is a bigge...

If it happened and there was aid and comfort given by the trump campaign, that is a big, big deal and it will make the election seem imlegitimate to people if, huge if still, if it's proven. >> go ahead jeremy. >> john's question is right, that's an important question, about collusion, but that's the question about the political optic. from the national security optic, custom is something i focus on and people who i talk to focus on there is a bigger question, which is what is russia doing to american national security. >> yes. >> and can we count on a president -- a commander in chief to list...