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They're punished, to protect our elections, and our president isn't doing that and you have to ask why. what is the reason? what is he afraid of? >> i want to ask you, i have you about this nunes memo, the nunes memo, which is by the chairman of the house intel committee, alleging fbi abuses seen by democrats as very political, an attempt to give president trump cover as he's investigated by the special counsel. but you know your republican colleagues are saying democrats haven't read this, even though they had the opportunity. have you -- you have the opportunity to read it. have you been abl...

Memo has met, i would suggest that we release both of them and have this discussion. here's the bottom line, no one is going to be able to dispute the facts laid out in the memo prepared by the intelligent staff. these are not opinions or conclusions, these are facts that are well sourced, no one is going to be able to dispute their veracity and then we get to have a good debate in this country about whether we want political parties weaponizing our own intelligence community against them. >> harris: when you say weaponize, can you give us a fresh example you think -- i know you can't tell us ...

His text messages came to light last week.y in them he talked about a meeting in andy's office. did we find out if that andy is andrew mccabe? n >> we did not find out. we have andrew mccabe before the judiciary committee tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. that also will be behind closed doors.t it's obvious it is mccabe. this is the circle of people directly involved in the hillary clinton email scandal, that migrated over i trump investigation. i think as a consequence of their bias. that's one or the other. over half the people on the hillary probe donated to hillary clinton or barackk obama. you've go...

>> yeah, one thing in my new book that's not generally known is he did a few reports. not just the trump dossier. after 2014, which was kind of well received by u.s. intelligence and sent all the way out to john reed. what i understand from talking to his friends, the sources behind the ukraine reports were the same sources behind the dossier, in other words, their sources were right and kind of proven in other areas, his friends say. i've asked and they say he is professional. he is credible. >> so listen, he is a mysterious figure as i said, a lot of people would like to hear from him. does ...

Him. does he defend the dossier's accuracy? >> yes, what his associates say, he believes it's between 70 and 90% accurate. in other words, no intelligence document is perfect. humans are flawed. they get things wrong, sources make mistakes, this is the intelligence, and what he was trying to do is send out these questions and got hair-raising replies from his sources about collaboration between trump people and russians, some of them intelligence people and say he forwarded this to the fbi and hoped they would investigate. and when they didn't, in his view he became increasingly kind of impati...