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Committee to fusion gps and because they hired natalie ohr, that political document worked its way to the intelligence process. i support the president's efforts to make sure that our intelligence process is not politici politicized. the president has reason to be concerned. >> neil: and so much came from the carter page thing. you have no idea. but having said that, to look into him with these reports that he was talking to russian operatives or russians in general apart from all of this other, pardon the term trumped up stuff, what did you make of that? >> if you look at the nunez

Greatest negotiator in the history of the world, and blah, blah, blah, all these things about his ego and his self-image that have driven him to make these unilateral decisions outside of any kind of staff process, outside of any kind of intelligence process, disconnected from both counsel and values that the american people generally expect their presidents to understand, has led him into this hole. he is in this ditch of his own making. he was the one who went in that meeting yesterday and just couldn't force himself to stick to a script for five minutes that would have saved his tail. he wa...

Is either ignorant of intelligence that's been widely accepted throughout the intelligence community, or, second choice, she is corrupting the intelligence process deliberately to benefit and protect the president and/or her own job, that americans need to be concerned about what their state and local systems are doing to protect the midterm elections. that's only those two choices. she's corrupting the intelligence process or she's ignorant. ignorant. both of those are bad. both of those should concern every american and the rest of the intelligence community should come together, call her ou...

Elections? >> well, i think under normal circumstances, brian, as you say, we would be coming together in a bipartisan fashion to ensure the security of the midterm elections. when we hear this play out as we're hearing today, that the secretary of homeland security is either ignorant of intelligence that's been widely accepted throughout the intelligence community, or, second choice, she is corrupting the intelligence process deliberately to benefit and protect the president and/or her own job, that americans need to be concerned about what their state and local systems are doing to protect t...

Knowledge that we have been under and remain under constant electronic threat, especially to our ongoing and rolling elections? >> well, i think under normal circumstances, brian, as you say, we would be coming together in a bipartisan fashion to ensure the security of the midterm elections. when we hear this play out as we're hearing today, that the secretary of homeland security is either ignorant of intelligence that's been widely accepted throughout the intelligence community, or, second choice, she is corrupting the intelligence process deliberately to benefit and protect the president an...