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Called intellink, the oldest and deepest of them and, excuse me, and just typed in the names of anyone that they want in the administration and they would see incidental collection that is part of the national intelligence process. what they wouldn't see is targeted collection against counterintelligence targets like russians and other individuals and terrorists where they would have been in communication with them. that would not have been available to anybody. so for him to bring that out, it is just throwing chafe into the air and hoping that it distorts the entire picture. >> michael, what...

Or special committee so is i think this back and forth and what the american people have found out so far, no longer does the congress have credibility to handle this alone. i don't say that lightly. >> david chalian. >> that is a man of authority, obviously, who perhaps can begin to sway his own party. i still think it's going to be a tough sell for a lot of republicans who want to protect trump and the white house on this still right now to call for special committee or outside independent investigator, that goes in ways they can't always control. i do think what nunez did was gut the house ...

He's, he just sees things and he reacts to them. this does not, this damages the intelligence process, both of our agencies, you know, agencies that we may have worked at, we're having to put, sit there every day, put out high quality product that we think is going to be used to keep the people of the united states protected and then we get this. >> mike, you've been sitting patiently. we talk all the time about this presidency losing credibility, this white house losing credibility, both at home and overseas, in a case like this, where this is such an explosive allegation, that doesn't have a...

Down isis is so important. stop them overseas. if you can't stop them overseas, have new processes at the border. biometric passports, for example. hardening of cockpit doors. finally, when they get here, you look at programs like the nypd ensure that you have an intelligence process to identify people before they do something. i think securing locations is not going to be efficient. this is not about locations. this is about people. you've got to find people before they do this because you just can't secure everything. >> phil, is it also about timing in terms of do law enforcement and counte...

Come out at the other end. this is where it is bad. i know some of these analysts. let me be clear there is nothing in it for them. these people have devoted their entire lives, some of them have worked 30 to 40 years simply to do what is necessary for the american people and their interest. they are doing it with a great deal of reluctance. >> colonel, what is their main beef that the white house is doing, what? >> the integrity of the intelligence process has been compromised. they do factual reports. they expect those to be put up the chain of command to the decisionmakers in a precise, cle...