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Make sure you don't go for long and make sure you don't go to war unless you absolutely have to. i ask you this -- do we absolutely have to do this? can we do intelligence sharing we have the greatest satellite system in the world we can help ukrainians out maybe with some weapons -- some financial support these are all options. what about -- what about coming support of their apartmenters in over there we don't have to do it alone but are you willing to sending your kid i can tell you my family was never ever the same after my uncle came home you know who showed up? two soldiers instead. neve...

Intelligence sharing. it is something we've been communicating closely with them through the course of the last several weeks and we'll continue to. we have their backs and as i would note that when president zelenskyy last spoke with president biden he asked for more security assistance. president turned it around and delivered that. had his teamwork to deliver that immediately. we are expediting the delivery of that. i can assure you we're in close touch and trying to do everything we can to provide them assistance whether security, weapons, military assistance, humanitarian assistance they ...

As we have been doing. >> is there coordination with the ukrainian military even to the targeting level? >> in terms of intelligence sharing? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> will the u.s. defense department, u.s. military leadership help device plans? >> i certainly understand the question. i'm not going to get into specifics or conversations between military leaders. but we are in regular constant touch with ukrainian leaders at a range of levels, and we continue to provide them a range of support include, as i mentioned, a huge package of military assistance to help step up defenses in this moment...

Sanctions and isolation of russia as long as putin is in charge. i will also say that i would agree with what we just heard from john kirby about not escalating nuclear response because russia has escalated their own readiness level. we have to avoid nuclear war. there's a lot more the u.s. could be doing to help the ukrainians as they're facing these conventional attacks from russia. >> martha: what would you recommend? what more could we be doing? >> well, first off, the intelligence sharing. my understanding is that we have begun to restrict intelligence sharing so we're not complicit in ta...

Also, intelligence sharing, but not, they're not going to do a no-fly zone. they don't want to go head to head with russian forces there and as the secretary general there, end up the risk of war. are there options beyond what the u.s. and nato are doing now short of a no-fly zone that would supply the ukrainians with additional support? >> well, i hate to say it, there's not much. they could send in something like patriot missile battery. something that could help deter russian air attacks, but the fact of the matter is, by not leaving some of those u.s. or nato forces behind that could some ...