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Russia has been an abuser of this. bill browder is the famous person. his book "red notice" is about how this system can be abused, how the kremlin can use this to go after their opponents around the world. so how can you have someone from this country essentially lead this? symbolically, it's really more devastating than operationally. at the doer level, they'll still do information-sharing, intelligence-sharing. there are protocols for how all of this is done, but just the entire thought of having the head of this organization is someone that is maybe under the control or influence of the kr...

Actually change tack on this because they don't have to worry about him over the longer term. >> were you -- go ahead. >> on the subject, the alliance that are decades old being strained, something you can speak very well of is on a practical matter, it's not just about trade economics. let's say something about like intelligence sharing. if there's a cooling off between governments, if suddenly france, let's say, feels like they can't trust the united states, what sort of level does that have on -- what sort of impact does that have on a level with the cia and counterparts, intelligence agenc...

Act and the president's team is continuing to repeat, well, we have all of these important ties with saudi arabia. there's no sense that they're pressing strongly. meanwhile, i hear my colleagues talking about using the various levers we have, the foreign assistance act, the arms export control act, the war powers act. we saw, in fact, 44 members of the senate in a bipartisan fashion support the sanders/lee/murphy proposal that is related to stopping support for saudi arabia's assault on yemen, both stop the fueling of the planes by american planes and stop the intelligence sharing. so already...

>> it's interesting. there has been animosity building for saudi arabia for a while. they expressed more openly in congress. there have been holds placed on all the arms deals that benefit saudi arabia for the last few years. it's interesting that this episode is the straw that breaks the camel's back. we are hoping that the saudi-led coalition site is a moral quandary for a lot of people. the stick that they have is being able to curtail that support. not just the arms sale, but we are not going to do the intelligence sharing. there is a number of things they have never done because of concer...

>> there's an immediate reason and there's a long-term reason. the immediate reason, lots of folks are speaking to this, there might be operational details or sources and methods in the classified documents that we simply don't want to make public. it's trade craft. that's never a good idea. >> let me pause you there. the outing of mr. halper, who was obviously an asset in the uk, has ended his ability to be an asset. correct? >> for instance. >> okay. >> there's a long-term damage, too. there's a long-term danger. we share information with countries around the world. for instance, we're part ...