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Questioned him for 50 minutes after he was arrested, but before he went into surgery for burns on his legs. after that surgery, later on christmas, the fbi tried to go back and resume the conversation, and he wanted none of it. he would say nothing more. so the fbi ultimately read him his miranda warning, and informing him of the right to remain silent. and our understanding had been that he had in fact been silent. that he hadn't given the fbi any new information since then. well, now we know that is not the case. that in fact, for several days he has been talking to the fbi, we're told by se...

We think of cooperation as providing substantial assistance in the investigation and prosecution of other people. you know a snitch to sort of get somebody else. you can also get cooperation credit if you provide information that has intelligence value. if you can provide information about what russia's game plan was in reaching out to the trump campaign during the election, that also has value. depending on what those things are, no doubt whatever it is that manafort and his lawyers have suggested through the proffer that is something that robert mueller assessed has value to him. >> we know ...

He was probably shocked by the request as well. >> i take it this is unprecedented, general, that there are no such side arrangements for any particular nation where an administration sets up a back channel like this going through that organ of the state as a means of having dialogue. >> this is off the map, michael. i know of no other experience like this in our history, certainly within my life experience. but michael, one additional footnote to a sub plot you and i have talked about in previous exchanges. let's assume. >> please. >> for a moment that communication intercepted, and let's ass...

Candidate trump, and that is where we have this from. now to these issues of the legality of susan rice, because everyone is respectfully concerned around that, did she do something illegal? right now we don't have facts to say they did. if it had any intelligence value then indeed it's considered legal. now there's an issue, was it appropriate? that's a different question. >> harris: it's not just the requesting of the unmasking, but the dissemination of the information. that's where i see the legality come in. absolutely all day long that's pertinent to the investigation anybody would be doi...

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