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I might add that's a felony because she clearly knows either she did it or somebody she knows did it. i think these are the types of insidious things that the president has really uncovered in the first 65 days of his duration that there are people, incredibly bad, intentioned people who are left over from the obama administration who are trying to do damage to him for political purposes, incredibly irresponsible things to be done. steve: you know what's interesting about it i believe at the point when this stuff was going out, she had left the federal government. she was working on the hillar...

They have concerns about this bill, they are coming from districts where donald trump did extremely well in the presidential election. for a lot of these members, how are they going to go back to their constituents and say, donald trump supported this bill, but i oppose it. how are they going to split the difference? that's a big challenge that they'll have to deal with. >> jon: the problem seems to be, correct me if i'm wrong, the concerns are that the poorest americans who are currently covered under obamacare might get tossed off the roles on this proposal. how do you answer that concern? >...

Is is. >> i don't think the center is with jeff sessions. maybe procedurally the question of his relationship to his colleagues in the senate. but in terms of his view historically he's been the hawk, he supported lethal weapons to ukraine. he was more hawkish than the obama administration on these questions. he supported sanctions. so he could be someone who tried to explain that donald trump was well intentioned, he was trying to suck up to the candidate and position himself for this job or some other job but i don't think the -- the russians wouldn't have looked at him as a mark with whom t...

What if u have compromises of national sovereignty but no crimes? and the special prosecutor has to spend two years and say i haven't found anything and then people get a -- the functional equivalent of a clean bill of health when the country is still in danger. >> >> what is your sense of where the center of this story is is. >> i don't think the center is with jeff sessions. maybe procedurally the question of his relationship to his colleagues in the senate. but in terms of his view historically he's been the hawk, he supported lethal weapons to ukraine. he was more hawkish than the obama ad...

And hospitable and warm and intentioned -- people were trying to get news. >> shepard: of course. >> find out what is on the president's mind. there were no fireworks. i thought to myself, if people could see this president, who is different in private than -- >> shepard: i know he is. that's not what he wants people to see. he wants people to think there's a major war on news. when you're with him, it's all good. on tv, he vilifies you when you're doing something wrong when you're doing everything right. that's annoying. >> i have to say, he's never done that with me. i pushed back as hard as...