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That prison. he's seemingly saying find way to close that prison even without congress. president very disappointed in congress, so he has told us to go as far as we can to get to a place where we can close that prison. so that prospect has gone now from unsourced trial balloon to anonymous leak to now the white house press secretary talking about it at the podium at the white house openly. is this actually in the works? could the president actually do this thing that he's been trying to do since day one of his presidency? could he do it on his own without congress? and if so, how? joining us ...

He could close it within the law, but he needs to be more aggressive. so far, he's made a lot of, he's well intentioned but he's not used the authority that he has to move aggressively notwithstanding congress. >> what kind of authority and how? what do you mean? >> i think there are a number of steps he could do at the broadest level congress has only restricted his authority to use department of defense funds. they've not restricted other sources of funding to close the prison and bring detainees to the united states. he could also veto the appropriations measure that restricts his authority...

Decision in which the court says this only came to the attention of the american people as a result of snowden's leaks. they then go on to analyze and say the following. when the patriot act was created by congress enabling a lot more surveillance in the united states to stop terrorists. >> good intentioned. >> good intentioned. >> they never said specifically that you can go to the telephone companies and gather this, what's called metadata. now, what's metadata? they're not listening in on the contents of your call. >> they find out who you called, what time, that kind of thing. >> by lookin...

Force have been used on busy shopping days when there's a risk of cars in the parking lot hitting shoppers outside at a mall, to police the parking lot to make sure pedestrians aren't hit. would you want this guy, a reserve officer having your back in a task force situation? >> no, i wouldn't. sunny's right, i think the nypd has a particularly good model here, with their auxiliary police department. these are unpaid positions, it doesn't matter what you donate or not. you go through a police academy, and you're used in traffic situations, busy shopping areas. they're not armed, they're usually...

Used on busy shopping days when there's a risk of cars in a parking lot hitting shoppers outside a mall to police the parking lot to make sure pedestrians aren't hit. would you want this guy, a reserve officer having your back in a task force situation? >> no i wouldn't. sonny's right. i think the nypd has a particularly good model here with their auxiliary police department. these are unpaid positions. doesn't matter what you donate or not. you go through a police academy and you're primarily used in traffic situations like you said busy shopping areas. they're not armed with a regular police...