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Many sanctions will affect the government versus how many sanctions will cause a humanitarian crisis and will affect the millions of people that live in north korea. one of the concerns of china, as i'm sure mr. chang will tell you, is the humanitarian crisis, it would cause an implosion in north korea, and a huge humanitarian crisis in north korea. it's what south korea has looked at, if the border opens up, if the dear leader is deposed and you have millions of north koreans who then need humanitarian assistance. that's troubling as well. >> nothing is ever simple when it comes to a solution...

Ballistic missile from north korea. the exact type of missile we don't know yet, the exact flight path we also don't know. joining us know, ambassador hill who headed the u.s. delegation to six-party talks and who has negotiated with the north koreans numerous times in his career. also with us, athena jones. i want to start with you, athena, as i understand the president has recently come before cameras. did he say anything in reaction to what we've learned about north korea's missile launch? >> reporter: hi, ana. no, he didn't. but i want you to watch this tape and listen. you'll see exactly ...

Implosion. china doesn't like to talk about those issues but it's very important that we be willing to do that and establish, dare i say it, some level of trust with the chinese. it's been a bit of a rocky start for the trump administration. but as i mentioned, i thought that conversation the other day in which president trump did accept the one-china policy is a good step. and i know there's a lot of talk about whether russia could be helpful. in my experience they've never been helpful on this. i'll leave it to president trump to decide what he can do with vladimir putin. >> ambassador chris...

Missile. they're still doing that. they still have a lot of problems in their missile program. this is another launch where they're tweaking japan, the united states, china, and others, saying we still have the capability and we will continue to do this. >> gordon, i know you spoke earlier that the chinese could have an important role here. what could the u.s. do in collaboration with the chinese that could effectively count counter north korea's development of nuclear missiles? >> it could cut off delivery of coal and all sorts of things to undermine the north korean economy. but it hasn't do...

Not, still to be determined but elise, is there danger in overreacting? >> i think there is. we said any time north korea tests a missile of this range they are continuing too perfect the program. it's not like this is not important but it's not a development that the u.s. needs to kind of ramp up in a significant way its posture it's already doing it, u.s. south korea and japan have been looking at increasing deterrence and bigger defenses in the region. the u.s. this new administration is clearly doing a review what it wants to do with north korea but i think the obama administration has bee...