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Things that interest antithesis of what the bible says. but he is selling it as though i'm chosen and i'm divinely tapped by the lord to be we're this horrible agenda. >> we're describing the republican party. >> right. >> none of these value voters, none of these evangelical voters are holding any of this stuff against donald trump or any of them. and i think it lays bare, you could say the same thing about the deficit, on and on and on. it lays bare that the hypocrisy is sort of baked into the cake. >> but in a particular way, mckay, it also says to me the wings have all collapsed. this is a...

Principles they're operating on. >> mckay's point, the last time he was talked about the religious belief to the holy all is allowed. which annihilates the conceptual category of hypocrisy. because you are the receiver of god's grace, you are allowed to do these things because the grace is prior to your acts, right? >> but he and trump in so many ways are so similar because trump says because i am trump. >> it's the secular version of it. >> pence says because god has chosen me to be here, this is why we can take money away from women and children. this is why we can do all the things that int...