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There are a limited number of groups that actually do these background investigations. i think has oftentimes these things are pushed through pretty quickly. sometimes people are asked to get clearances, need to use them somewhere. they give them an interim clearance where they do a very limited background investigation, and nut the full thorough background you would expect, and they allow them on-site without that full clearance. there is oftentimes pressure to push people through. >> you must have gone through these kind of reviews as well in the fbi. >> absolutely. so all the people that wo...

The details on the background. he has to list the arrests and time and place and if he doesn't do them it takes is investigator running his fingerprints and stuff like that. if it had left anything out it would be a automatic unclearance. >> they might not be uncovered right away and he might have the interim clearance and start working. all the interim clearance is nothing immediately strikes us as not being able to get a clearance. >> this seems to be a loophole. you have edward snowden who had security clearances that people question. how concerned should we be about this incident and that ...

Interim clearance and start working. all the interim clearance is nothing immediately strikes us as not being able to get a clearance. >> this seems to be a loophole. you have edward snowden who had security clearances that people question. how concerned should we be about this incident and that a person like this with this background which is obviously a problem and easily available even on a quick internet search could have had this clearance and security? >> that's just it. if i was going to rent my home to someone i would have seen the 2010 and 2004 thing pop up. so that is a big question....

Of the deep state? >> this term deep state has been thrown around. i would say employees that worked for me at the cia nearly uniformly were aimed at achieving the president's objectives and america's objectives. >> he believes no organization is exempt from malfeasance. jared kushner's lawyer said he was questioned for a second time by robert mueller in the russia collusion and contacts with foreign nationals. kushner was interviewed by mueller's team last november. the attorney says kushner team believes he is now finished with all ongoing inquiries. >> in the meantime, jared kushner clear...

Know, value right as an advisor to the president on these issues without that level of security clearance. >> i know you want to get in here, julia. let's explain to our viewers before you get in, he had an interim clearance and had access to top secret information and more highly classified information like the president's daily intelligence briefing. that's huge. go on. >> it is huge. and i want to get to jim's point. i think it is really important, jim. we both had gone through this process. we say a lot about jared kushner. you know, was he corruptible, is he arrogant, is this nepotism. fo...