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Some of these things the chief of the staff had taken action on months ago. there are -- these are steps that will apply to all white house informations. >> again, we don't know the exact number of individuals, but we're lead to believe it's somewhere between 10 and 30 who are at risk of losing their interim clearance. one person that is not at risk of losing interim clearance is jared kushner. we understand because he had to amend his sf-86 application form for security clearance a number of times because there were omissions, that wasn't submitted until after june 1. this five-page memorandu...

Dismissive, i believe was the word you used, of jared kushner for some time, and i'm wondering, a, if that is true and b, is this a particular effort against jared kushner in some way? >> well, you know, general kelly would say that this memo wasn't targeted to any one person in particular, but it had been clear for many, many months that jared kushner was one of the, if not the highest-ranking official in the west wing who, like rob porter, had an interim clearance and access to top secret information. by distant of that. and so whether or not it's the case jared kushner has felt like this is...

Able, maybe in this case, if he loses his interim clearance, people like jared not able to do their day-to-day jobs. >> here's how many americans aren't feeling so great about having this, you know, senior adviser not getting his full security clearance. according to latest numbers from qui quinnipiac, mr. ambassador, 62% think it's inappropriate for kushner to get security clearance -- >> if you want to talk about original sin the original sin of president trump was that he sought to use the presidency not to benefit the country but himself and his family. of course, he held on to his busines...

Office that's in charge of doing that. >> i was only able to skim your story very briefly. part of what stood out to me is that you write about that general kelly has been dismi dismissive, i believe is the word you used, over jared kushner for some time, and i'm wondering, a, if that is true, and b, is this a particular effort against jared kushner in some way? >> well, you know, general kelly would say that this memo wasn't targeted to any one person in particular, but it had been clear for many, many months that jared kushner was one of the, if not the, highest ranking official in the the w...

Son-in-law and senior aide and chief of staff john kelly, they're locking horns. give me the background on that first. >> because john kelly announced late last week that there will be new rules in place given all the tumult and the very real problems with the security clearances under rob porter, which then broaden out to questions again, renewed questions about the fact that a lot of top officials in the white house have only interim clearance. they haven't gotten their full clearance yet. jared kushner is one of them. so the question is going to be, whether or not because of john kelly's ow...