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Now senior white house official joe hagan. so in these ongoing clashing and sham bol lick explanations coming from the white house, they're only raising more questions who knew what when and that includes haggen there john kelly, hope hicks, everybody beak. >> hope hicks reportedly dating rob porter. i imagine she had conversations about the fact he wasn't getting the security clearance. it's not a thing people in the white house are like where did we end up on my security clearance? where did we end up with the fbi be people talking to everybody in my life. it's a thing you keep on top of. >>...

Talent, and am i willing to embrace this risk? >> so would the fbi, upon interviewing the two wives of rob porter, finding out this information, would they turn that over to somebody at the white house? >> oh, absolutely. they would deliver it and frankly would probably, as i think the public record already suggests, call a great deal of attention to this because this is not something that you normally see in the portfolio of someone with whom we entrust this kind of information. so i can understand why this was kind of, i think, put off to the side. we'll just live with the interim clearance,...

Asked to be part of the administration. in other words, people with a clearance history don't make up a significant portion of this population. and, frankly, some of the folks there have very complex pasts that have to be looked at, like jared kushner and all his financial dealings. so for the longest time, i was saying, you know, this is fairly normal. it's more complicated than average. they probably do need a lot more time. but now after 13 months, i'm beginning to move in the direction of a position that there are some folks in this process have an interim clearance because there's still w...

Dan coats, the director of national intelligence, you admire him. you like him. he specifically said if you only have interim clearance, not full clearance, should you only have access to limited information. the presidential daily brief is not limited information. so do you think jared kushner should have access to the presidential daily brief? >> i'm not totally clear with what level of even interim clearance he has. i agree, if you don't have clearance to see information, if you have limited clearance, you can only see either information of a limited sort or for a limited time. the clearanc...

Is there something in this individual's past that makes him or her particularly more vulnerable to exploitation by a foreign service, makes them more vulnerable to perhaps a character deficiency that they shouldn't have and be entrusted with this kind of information? so this is fundamentally a question about do i want this talent, and am i willing to embrace this risk? >> so would the fbi, upon interviewing the two wives of rob porter, finding out this information, would they turn that over to somebody at the white house? >> oh, absolutely. they would deliver it and frankly would probably, as ...