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Talent, and am i willing to embrace this risk? >> so would the fbi, upon interviewing the two wives of rob porter, finding out this information, would they turn that over to somebody at the white house? >> oh, absolutely. they would deliver it and frankly would probably, as i think the public record already suggests, call a great deal of attention to this because this is not something that you normally see in the portfolio of someone with whom we entrust this kind of information. so i can understand why this was kind of, i think, put off to the side. we'll just live with the interim clearance,...

Behalf of the president has the right to grant. >> so somebody in the white house would have made the determination, all right, we'll just go with an interim with this guy, or is it possible they would ask the fbi to just continue investigating while they continued with an interim clearance? >> they would. and either that's the reality, or that's the process cover for what's going on here. >> because that's what the white house keeps saying, this is still ongoing. >> sure. >> i don't understand. >> no, no. i think the white house could, at least in terms of the paper trail, say that this inves...