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It. >> we don't obey the laws. >> this is the problem. the border is not secure as the administration and as the administrations prior have claimed. that's the first point. the second point, is we have laws on the books that are not being enforced. we don't need more immigration laws we have them. >> that's exactly right. >> it is illegal to enter the country without permission. that's the first thing. >> that's exactly right. >> it is illegal to harbor illegal aliens inside a city in your home anywhere. that is also illegal under federal law. the problem here is that washington, d.c. has tied...

Him, just a low level guy. we didn't for see him killing someone. >> that sounds like a lot of excuses. there are problems with interior enforcement and state and local cooperation. we need to stop making excuses and stop pointing fingers and look to how we can get to a better day. in the past there are times when isis held people and caused problems. ice is trying to be more flexible and nimble. the phone call could have prevented a lot of tragedy here. >> the old expression when you point a finger at somebody there's four pointing back at you. there's an outgrove of decisions among local and...

Doca was announced that he didn't have the constitutional authority to do it. here we have an amnesty issue that led to the murder of four people. >> is there any congress >> is there any congress review about this? >> sure, we can take away the president's authority. we're trying to do that now through an appropriation bill. we can pass a good immigration bill that secures the borders. and making sure that we have interior enforcement. >> so will -- you've demanded something. was this guy given a stay of deportation, they haven't responded yet. do you think they will? >> well, they better. yo...

The bottom line is that all they are doing right now violates the findings and recommendations of the 9/11 commission. i provided testimony to that commission. the idea that we have gone from 26 visa countries in 9/11 -- 9/11 commission said go after the visa process. tighten' it up. be careful about immigration fraud. they even made the point that a lack of interior enforcement unwittingly conspired to enable the terrorists not only to enter our country to but to embed themselves. no interior enforcement. think what kind of risk this creates for us. >> specifically, the recruiting hot bed the...

If you overstay a visa you are treated differently than if you cross a border there is the agricultural. we had the farmers on capitol hill today. it all seems to go back to that 11 million. and i even think that could be worked out. but people don't trust what we do in washington. they don't trust us. they don't believe that. >> do you blame them? >> no, i wouldn't either. that's why i tell people back home you should not believe us when we say we are going to secure the border and provide interior enforcement. you should make us do it and then you should believe us afterwards. no, i don't bl...