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Different classes. so it's -- a republican congressman from ohio is probably going to be more accessible than a bay area congressman, even though they're very different politics. shut the border and let the engine of assimilation, integration, intermarriage work. and i think in 20 years, this is why i'm optimistic, long term very pessimistic we'd have this experience where if your name's cuomo or giuliani, we can't predict your affinities. short term, we've got to shut the border and get back to the melting pot and junk the salad bowl. mark: this issue of assimilation, i find that's where it's...

A democrat party that is committed to balkanization. the way their leaders talk, the way they govern, they don't want assimilation because of the very reason you say. >> yeah. mark: because assimilation works against their ideology and throws them out of office. > and their ideology by i thk what you're suggesting is their ideology on its own facts and merits can't get 51% of the electorate. so they have to bring in voters that have an instant greeives. it's pretty crazy when a person crosses one inch into america and then plugs into the whole affirmative action grievance industry even though...

Wrote about this, that they basically needed to devour society, all these major institutions. do you think they've largely succeeded? >> i do. i think if you tomorrow, mark levin, go tovi stanford and you give a lecture on global warming, i don't think you're going to be able to finish that lecture without being interrupted. i think if i go to stanford or harvard, yale and give a lecture on the value of assimilation, integration and intermarriage with measured legal mericratic, i think if i touch somebody on the shoulder and that person files a sexual harassment lawsuit at me, i'm not going to...