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Sorority knows, that they are really watching us, and we have to play by the rules, a ndnd so it is a right step, and the colleges should do it more often a. >> it is not just university staff people who are watching and the people who are higher ups in the fraternity, but it is the internet perez, because your life is the internet. >> yes. >> absolutely. >> and the people grew up with the internet and they should know about it and as i said to frank bruni, everything that you do has a trail and it stays there. >> yes, the false expectation of privacy if you join say a private facebook page or...

Church and i'd rather not like to talk about him. >> and perez, speaking the truth to the power. all right. he is absolutely right. thank you, perez. and i want to talk about "empire" and now the question is whether they should use the "n" word and terrence howard plays lucius lucius, and this is what he had to say to "access hollywood." >> they said that [ bleep ] is used in almost every kon conversation in almost every black neighborhoods and why don't we hear it on the tv anymore and white people are afraid of it, and did they create it, but if it is something that we use it on a daily basi...

And it is going to have budgets attached to them and theories at attached to them, and we need all of it to attach to it. >> perez? >> well shgs, they aren't trying to do any of that, but planting a coffee bean and begin the dialogue dialogue, and it is not going to be solved or spoken in depth at starbucks, but begin the process. >> i want to put up this full screen, because they took out a full page ad in the tejeda tejeda -- in the "usa to daiday" it is an opportunity to have a conversation. kumbaya. >> and can they just change it to small, medium and large to connect to all people and that...

African-american. and there were 43 straight white presidents, and yes, the dynamic is different, and people writing letters invoking race, and -- >> now, when you ripped on george bush, i never said, well mark lamont hill is never being racist racist, and i said, well, you are a good liberal riffing on george bush. >> nobody is denying that, because it is true. >> well, i find it mind boggling that you can say it is never about race, but every single white person who criticized obama is never about race, because i criticize him more than you would like to admit, but there are times when race ...

Well. if you order a latte, maybe next time you should order a little darker color to the coffee, and speaking of daker color, we should talk about race and this is the most ri dikdiculous ideas of a company to think that this is the most appropriate place, and this is a disaster waiting to happen. >> you agree, perez? you disag greeree? >> no, not at all. i think that starbucks is not for everybody, and if you don't the like what they are doing, don't buy it there. to me, starbucks is like the city of san francisco, and lot of people don't like it, because they are so progressive and they tre...