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New jersey. new jersey has the most demanding background check, both of the killers in el paso and dayton would have passed new jersey's test on the basis of what was allowed to that database. when members of congress are saying, universal background checks, they don't work unless you have the right information because you can only access what is already in the database. >> shannon: these are the things that. what about mental health? you want to keep guns out of people's hands that have a desire to kill innocent people. who have written things about that. in many cases people who know them, t...

Weapon ban and the definition is something that needs to be refined in this piece. what did the president say to her? he said he was open to hearing anything that could work. is he open on banning assault weapons? >> he is listening to all people and he will be in dayton and he will be in el paso. if you short days, the quickest he can get there given all the security measures. the fact is the movement -- he is listening, but also people always say do something and then you know what? if congress does nothing. i think that is why people are so upset. we can't just lay blame. i think the presid...

Notable exceptions. as opposed to larger numbers in the u.k. and germany and france. elizabeth: sort of brings me to my next question. you had a piece that said if you're looking for terrorism, look offline. i don't know if that was the headline, but it sort of caught my attention. so typically we talk about getting online to fight terrorism. why would we look offline? >> yeah. despite my boyish good looks, i'm not a huge believer in this internet radicalization. it plays a role, but it's not the be-all, end-all. yes, everyone's online talking about how great isis is, but you're online with yo...

The people that are going to find out first if somebody is sympathetic towards isis, if they may be making plans to travel, if they are becoming more kind of dangerous by way of this internet radicalization. a lot of times it's the family members, the friends and those are the people that are in the best position to go to law enforcement and say something. that's a big ask, though when you say "hey we want you to come talk about your family member. but in many cases that can be the key to stopping a threat. >> this new york joint terrific task force that you were a part of. very sophisticated....

With al shabaab, essentially people unconnected with the gee yoe political context, the geo political grievances of the places that they're fighting for. this of course being propogated and fueled by this internet radicalization that we're seeing of course isis taking on the charge with very effectively. >> we're going to be learning a lot more about emwazi in the coming days for sure. sasha, bob, guys thank you very much. still ahead, more christians in syria, they are taken hostage by isis. and now there are new reports of isis destroying ancient artifacts in a mosul museum. we're going li...