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Committed a robbery down the street. >> that is part of the problem, yes, you can gather additional information through that process it's more difficult in layers and that is a bit of a self inflicted wound. but what we've done is that this administration sometime ago said look. we're not going to use enhanced inter investigation. is the of angst on this. the reality of it is, there are enhanced techniques that aren't torture, sometimes it's not ability to use them, it's ability to create the unknown for these detainees. that is what effective in an interrogation environment. them not knowing ...

Civilian court, like he's a guy who committed a robbery down the veto. >> this is part of the problem. it's not just putting him into the u.s. criminal justice system, which, yes, you can gather additional information through that process. it's much more difficult and layered than it used to be. and that's a bit of a self-inflicted wound. but what we've really done in terms of our ability to gather information is, this administration some time ago said, look, we're not going to use enhanced interrogation techniques. a lot of angst over that, a lot of people on the far left say it's torture -- ...

Who committed a robbery down the veto. >> this is part of the problem. it's not just putting him into the u.s. criminal justice system, which, yes, you can gather additional information through that process. it's much more difficult and layered than it used to be. and that's a bit of a self-inflicted wound. but what we've really done in terms of our ability to gather information is, this administration some time ago said, look, we're not going to use enhanced interrogation techniques. a lot of angst over that, a lot of people on the far left say it's torture -- >> what do you think? haven't be...