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Interrogation team headed by you, mr. rodriguez, used enhanced interrogation techniques, zubada stopped cooperating. >> well, ali was not there when we started to use enhanced interrogation techniques. >> bill: let's walk through it zufan says that the fbi got the information about khalid sheikh mohammed not the cia. true or false? >> the only two things that he got. the one thing that he got was that khalid sheikh mohammed was muktar that was the name he had used. even the story about jose padilla is not so. >> bill: don't get ahead of yourself there. who interrogated zubada first who you or ...

To dubai, authorities there would have held on to him and made him available to the u.s. but i'm just guessing. >> i would agree. this has been a good story so far and we've had other arrests of foreign nationals who were trying to attack both inside the american homeland and abroad. jihad jane comes to mind but there were also two others. zazi and david headily who was casing targets abroad. >> another pakistani-american. >> let me just say one other thing about miranda rights because now the charge is he shouldn't have been mirandized. this a an american citizen there was a public safety exc...

We don't know his connection to these groups, but what about joe lieberman proposing we revoke the citizenship, the statute o books gives us adequate ability to revoke citizenship if proved guilty. i think the idea of revoking it before charged makes no sense. let's understand there is a public safety exception to miranda warnings. it was envoeked by the very talented interrogation team and then sometime later, i don't know the time period, he waived his rights and continued to talk.

Interrogation team and he was cooperative and at some point we don't know precisely when he was read his miranda rights and he's still cooperating, so i would view it as another success of applying the rule of law. >> we've got to leave it there. fran townsend, our homeland security analyst and contributor and jane harman, thank you very much. from connecticut to times square, mary snow is in the terror suspect's neighborhood. she's digging into his background and she'll tell all of us what she has learned. and a cnn exclusive, i'll ask pakistan's ambassador to the united states, husain ha...

Interrogation team, and we will extract intelligence from them about what they know about the enemy activities and not read them their miranda rights. this is absurd, capturing a terrorist who tried to blow up an air airliner and reading them their rights. they should be held by our military intelligence organizations, questioned about what they know, then you decide where to prosecute. so under my statute if we caught the guy alive tomorrow, we would give him to the military to be interrogated about what he knows about enemy activity, then we'll decide whether to prosecute him in a military c...