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Article three courts. but what i would have done differently is when you catch a guy right off the airplane, you turn him over to the high value interrogation team. they talk to the agency in the government to make sure we're getting good information and good questions to ask this guy and after a reasonable period of time, let the department of justice set protocols determine whether you go into a civilian court or a military court. and when you come to ka leak sheikh month hhamedmohamed, he' mastermind of 9/11, he should be in a military court. >> sir, i wanted to ask you about that. for ka l...

Guilty plea and i'm glad the guy is in jail, but what i've been pushing for, chuck, is a legal system that realizes we're at war and all the actors are not the same. there's a place for civilian trials. but i want a legal system where you don't have to read the terrorist his rights when they're caught, not use the law enforcement model, get good intelligence and make a intelgz decision about whether you go to military commission. so in the future when you catch a guy like this, i don't want him to have his rights read right up front. i want the interrogation team to talk to him as long as nece...

Have a-- appears to want to have a fight with congress. the president needs to set his direction. does he want cooperation or does he want national, you know, national security to become a partisan issue. >> but john brennan says by telling you that abdulmutallab was in fbi custody that that implies that he would be mirandized and that you never raised any concerns. >> well, that's what he says he implies. the high value interrogation team was going-- is going to be led by the fbi and the fbi at its discretion would decide whether individuals would be mirandized or not. you'll also see that wh...

Abdulmutallab, the christmas day underwear bomber was in custody and you were fine with it, you never raised any issues about conscious of him being mirandized or getting any sorts of rights. >> it's accurate that i talked to john brennan briefly on christmas night and gave a brief description of exactly what happened on the airplane, that this person had been taken into custody and that he was being questioned. john brennan never brought up about how we were going to be moving forward and those types of things. you know, the administration itself has said that you know, we were going to have ...

>> john wells, he is cia agent, he's also muslim. in the first book he has converted to islam. that's the only thing he has found. he has this tension as an american loyal to the united states, but he believes in islam. and he's a pretty loyal guy. on the one hand he's disgusted by what he sees. but he knows the darkness of the world as well as anyone. he knows if we don't fight, things could get inworse. megyn: the book opens up with former members of this interrogation team being assassinated. one final word i'll give you. before when started the segment i told you i don't like books about t...