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Position in the future where enhanced interrogation techniques would be revived or at least seriously considered? >> i think she made it very clear in her testimony the other day that that is not a place cia is going to go. number one, we don't need to do it. number two, the law would not allow the techniques. the law as it currently stands would not allow those techniques to be used. and i think cia as an institution and cia personnel as individuals suffered greatly as a result of the national reaction to that program. and i think she made it very clear in her testimony that we're not going t...

President who offers to apologies ever. might that have been part of a playbook, when you go in there, don't apologize, just own what you did? why wouldn't she apologize to this when clearly the country is behind not using these enhanced interrogation techniques in torturing prisoners? >> we still have a school saying they are for this. look at former vice president cheney saying he wants them teed up ready to go again, if necessary. i think she was told you're going to open a tremendous can of worms again legally to cia colleagues who have engaged in this ask ynd you need to be car about your...

Nomination. in the past week, they spoke out against her view. >> the president has stated that torture works. do you agree with that statement? >> senator, i don't believe that torture works. we got valuable information from debriefing of al qaeda detainees. i don't believe it's notable whether interrogation techniques played a role in that. >> let's bring in national security analyst. very good sunday morning to you. thank you for joining me. i want to get your assessment of haspel's testimony during the senate meeting. how did you feel about what you heard? >> alex, i'm troubled by gina hed...

>> paul: president trump's pick to lead the cia facing a grilling this week on capitol hill. gina haspel, a 33 year veteran of the agency testified wednesday before the senate intelligence committee ahead of a confirmation vote there next year. has pee peel facing questions -- haspel facing questions over the role in her post 9/11 interrogation program. >> do you believe the previous interrogation techniques were immoral? >> senator, i believe that cia officers to whom you referred -- >> it's a yes or no answer. >> senator, i believe that cia -- >> it's a yes or no answer. >> -- did extraordin...

Senator harris? >> i think it's a red herring. i can't believe democratic senators are relitigating a debate that the american people had more than a decade ago. gina haspel did not put that interrogation program into place. it was legal when it was carried out by her and then we had a great debate about it and we decided to roll back some of those interrogation techniques. i think she was right to defend the cia officers who were carrying out their duty in a constitutional and legal fashion. >> paul: kate, you saw the hearing and there was some suggestion beforehand that it was going to be re...