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Know, something that was being done in a different part of the agency under the authority of others. and it was something that was directed by the administration at the time. >> laura: and that was that. move on. while, it wasn't until december of 2014 when the senate intel committee released a report severely criticizing enhanced interrogation, describing the techniques as torture, which yielded little intelligence. that anyone began to really care that much about it. during a press conference at ca director, sp 24 suddenly reversed course, defended the program, and refused to label technique...

Feel about it? what did you think about it? what really counts when you're talking with the intel community and the military and law enforcement, what are the laws on the books at that time. how somebody feels about it frankly, i don't care. and i don't think the american public really cares what that feels are. can you imagine if a combat brigade or your operational people and your intelligence committee go out and basically are making their decisions in a visually on how they may feel? >> laura: the values question came up a lot. rosa, i want to go to you. even people very critical of this p...

Me. >> what about enhanced interrogation techniques not used by the cia, is it fair for haspel to be asked are those immoral and if not is it not fair for people like harris or mccain to say if you can't say that's immoral i won't vote for you? >> that's a fair question. you know, if i had answered it i would have said i don't think what we did is immoral. i have the advantage of spending years with her, the people like me in the business don't look at the involvement in the interrogation program as the most seminole point in 33 years of service. when i watched her i reflect on what i saw as a...

For instance, senator kamala harris of california had this exchange with her today. let me just play that for you. >> it's a yes or no answer. do you believe the previous interrogation techniques were immoral? i'm not asking do you believe they were legal. i'm asking do you believe they were immoral? >> senator, i believe that cia did extraordinary work to prevent another attack on this country given the legal tools that we were authorized to use. >> please answer yes or no. do you believe in hindsight that those techniques were immoral? >> senator, what i believe sitting here today is that i ...

Refusing to back down confidently answering questions and democrats about her role in post 9/11 detention program. >> the pres. has asserted torture works. do you agree with that statement? >> i don't believe torture works, in the cia program, to enhance interrogation techniques. and many directors, valuable information, in senior al qaeda operatives, with another attack. >> is that he is? >> it is not a yes. we got valuable information from debriefing of al qaeda detainees. i don't think it is knowable whether interrogation techniques played a role in this. >> reporter: the hearing hitting sn...