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That was that ad. there's the issue of rick santorum not just defending torture but saying john mccain was only against torture because john mccain doesn't understand it. mr. santorum saying, "he doesn't understand how enhanced interrogation works. i mean, you break somebody, and after they're broken they become cooperative." rick santorum understands. that john mccain, what's he ever done to -- yeah. there's also the time rick santorum said president obama being in favor of abortion rights was, "almost remarkable for a black man." oh. rick santorum also thinks states should be allowed to ban ...

Advanced interrogation works. you break somebody and after they are broken they become cooperative. >> chris: question, you have never responded to san store rum. what are your thoughts with what he said? >> look at the record including that of director leon pa net that and diane feinstein who said that not only did we not get good information from ksm and others but we got bad information and the information that was primarily responsible for bringing bin laden to justice had to do with standard methodology and intelligence gathering. and when you say that, by the way, it does a bit of a diss...

Advanced interrogation works. you break somebody and after they are broken they become cooperative. >> chris: question, you have never responded to san store rum. what are your thoughts with what he said? >> look at the record including that of director leon pa net that and diane feinstein who said that not only did we not get good information from ksm and others but we got bad information and the information that was primarily responsible for bringing bin laden to justice had to do with standard methodology and intelligence gathering. and when you say that, by the way, it does a bit of a diss...

Enhanced interrogation works, you break somebody and after they are broken they coming up cooperative. >> chris: question, you have never responded to santorum. what are your thoughts about what he said. >> well, i think he should look at the record including that of director leon panetta. dianne feinstein, who both said that not only did we not get good information from the -- ksm and others but we got bad information and the information that was primarily responsible for bringing bin laden to justice, had to do with standard methodology and intelligence-gathering and when you say that, by th...

Page and to the senate floor to rebut claims made by those in his own party that torture was somehow responsible for getting bin laden. it wasn't. the head of the cia says it wasn't. and the head of the cia is in a position to know. but in trying to keep the america loves torture argument alive on the right, republican presidential candidate rick santorum has now told a conservative radio host this week that john mccain is wrong. despite the evidence. rick santorum says john mccain does not know what he's talking about because john mccain just doesn't understand torture. according to mr. santo...