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Elected to just put our finger to the wind and take a public opinion poll and do what the prevailing mood is at the time. we elected to use our own judgment to figure without what is best in the long run for people we represent. >> greta: sometimes you can take it a little extreme and people think you are arrogant and not list anyone. the best example is what happened in massachusetts. i don't think the people in massachusetts felt they were -- any way a couple of questions about health care. one is the commerce clause of massachusetts that you raised about mitt romney. it is my understanding ...

Department tphaoubgs in quality of care. the -- the real issue is infringement of our liberty, shrinking of our freedom. the pretext for the federal bill was the interstate commerce clause that is, the congress may legislate constitutionally, in spheres that involve interstate commerce. we don't have any interstate commerce here if the interstate commerce clause can be stretched so far that you or i existing in the state of missouri or idaho or north dakota, engaged in interstate commerce we no longer have limits to federal action and to what congress may do. they might pass a law saying we ma...

Description is worry or concern. when i go to these meetings, i don't see angry people with steam coming out of their ears. i see people who are truly worried about the direction of our country. they're worried about the debt consuming us. i would say there is a direction. the things i talk about, term limits, reading the bills, not bailing out rich bankers who failed us and failed their companies, pointing to where the bills have justification in the constitution. that's get to what we're talking about today with the interstate commerce clause in health care. let's reexamine what we've been d...

Congress or the president forced a consumer, a regular citizen, the price of citizenship to buy a product. that is unprecedented use of the interstate commerce clause and we believe unconstitutional. >> greta: before we that question. you have to be a party in the lawsuit. i learned in one state attorney general has to have permission from the governor or the state legislature, it didn't have that can you go forward, -- governor granholm says you can't represent the state of michigan because she is the client then which i don't fully understand but you can represent the people of michigan. can...

Forced a consumer, a regular citizen, the price of citizenship to buy a product. that is unprecedented use of the interstate commerce clause and we believe unconstitutional. >> greta: before we that question. you have to be a party in the lawsuit. i learned in one state attorney general has to have permission from the governor or the state legislature, it didn't have that can you go forward, -- governor granholm says you can't represent the state of michigan because she is the client then which i don't fully understand but you can represent the people of michigan. can you then make your own de...